TBOD: 4 Years after TAS

Kemuel · Postby **Kemuel** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:36 pm

Is it BOD or LO that will have the chapter about Lyra 4 years about TAS becuase I read somewhere it was BOD but I am not sure.

Nix · Postby **Nix** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:39 pm

i think LO has one set 2 years after, and BOD has one 4 years after, they sort of lead onto each other

Kemuel · Postby **Kemuel** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:40 pm

Oh ok thx

Will · Postby **Will** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:24 pm

Woah... Lyra's Oxford is the one set four years after TAS (with Lyra at 16) and we don't know if TBOD will have any Lyra stories in it yet.

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 11:45 pm

she better be able to read the alethiometer again... that pissed me off...

Will · Postby **Will** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 6:00 pm

Really, why?

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 7:58 pm

because its just so... eerily perfect... it seemed like a detail PP put in there to close up any possible loopholes...

Kemuel · Postby **Kemuel** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 8:31 pm

That is probaly why he put it in there. You changed your avatar again.

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Sat Apr 19, 2003 9:24 pm

yeah... no real reason for it...

those type of things annoy me...

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 7:49 am

i agree... it seems just thrown in to avoid contradiction, regardless of how absurd it is... they didn't even fully explain why she couldn't read it...

eloquent · Postby **eloquent** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 1:34 pm

Come to think of it, they didn't really explain how she came to read it in the first place... I mean that is more remarkable since it takes a lifetimes dilligent study and a load of books of meaning (plus hours of laborious referencing and figuring) to be able to read it properly, and she seemed to pick it up perfectly after messing around with the hands a bit.

I have a theory about this though. Someone in the books (I believe it was an angel) said she could read the alethiometer because she needed to, so I think the Dust itself imparted this knowledge onto her, or allowed her to understand the complex symbol 'ladders'. After her objective was accomplished, the ability was withdrawn.

Shivy · Postby **Shivy** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 2:05 pm

I thought that was explained in the books

When she weas asking why she couldn't read it anymore, one of the angels i think it was, said that she could only read it because they needed her to, and that she'd lost the knowledge because it was no longer immediately needed, and so she would have to learn it all again

Nix · Postby **Nix** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 3:17 pm

it wa sgrace that gac her the ability to read it

AySz88 · Postby **AySz88** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 4:42 pm

Er...I was the one who said the Dust-giving-ability thing...I think?

eloquent · Postby **eloquent** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 5:28 pm

You did? I just came up with it while I was writing the post, so if you said it somewhere else I probably subconsciously stole the idea...

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:00 pm

yeah, it said she read it by grace, and now she'd have to gain it back through work, which further proves my "contributor to society/dust idea"

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 1:30 am

thats sort of dissapointing...

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:25 am

blame pp... he just kinda threw it in there, it seems...

Angel to follow · Postby **Angel to follow** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:22 pm

I was dismayed that she couldn't read it any longer because at least if she could she would be able to ask if will was ok.
I understand that she couldn't be allowed to read it or she could of asked it how they stayed together but it could have just not given her the answer. Because it did that before.

eelbonjack · Postby **eelbonjack** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:25 pm

If memory serves, Mr. Pullman said something about the book being about Lyra growing, and something about her life in the alternate world she's in.....and ALSO about the other background stories about Serafina Pekkala and Iorek...... and I head it also mentioned someplace as a "prequel".
in the way that LO serves as a lead in to the "Book of Dust", and talks about little things from the past sort of creeping up into the future, and it all having some meanings, I think that past and future (future as in post-Amber Spyglass) events will connect.

I could be wrong, but we'll see..........

TBOD: 4 Years after TAS

TBOD: 4 Years after TAS

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