The Cave

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 5:52 pm

With the Cave, (computer) how could it read your mind...?

AySz88 · Postby **AySz88** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:31 pm

It's not the Cave itself. Dust can "read" your mind (well, Dust pretty much is your mind), and it controls what the Cave displays.

Daniel · Postby **Daniel** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:01 pm

the cave was also connected to a brainwave-reading device -- hence the electrodes.

Postby **jessia** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:19 pm

the cave is probably designed to read brain activity (think like a cat scan?) brain activity is basically conciousness, aside from regulating bodily functions. conciousness attracts dust. there you go.

lostinthought451 · Postby **lostinthought451** » Mon May 19, 2003 10:08 pm

hmmmmm...I thought the Cave was pretty neat.

Sparrow · Postby **Sparrow** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 12:41 am

Ooooooooooh... I'm gonna have to try that, Witch-girl.

Ahem. I will attempt my answer to the proposed question as an SAT analogy:
Mary:the Cave::Lyra:the alethiometer
(Anyone who has had the unfortunate circumstance knows how to read that, but for everyone else: Mary is to the Cave as Lyra is to the alethiometer.)
It says at some point during that scene that the same beings putting letters on the screens move the dials on the alethiometer. And the alethiometer knows everything because Dust knows everything, because Dust is consciousness. So if the Dust knows everything, then it must know what's in your mind.

MSimm62385 · Postby **MSimm62385** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 4:28 pm

o.O...riiiight

Will · Postby **Will** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:18 pm

Okay...humans are much too obsessed with the non-existant occult.

Starshade · Postby **Starshade** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:37 pm

It is true that we humans are fascinated by the unusual the impossible and the damn right strange. It's called curiosity.

Bantanix · Postby **Bantanix** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:43 pm

hey, thats like in the sixth sense when the kid tried doing free-hand writing and ended up writing curses all over the paper

Starshade · Postby **Starshade** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:32 pm

Yeah probably is. Yet I don't really want to try it as I might come into contact with an inner daemon.

Loriel · Postby **Loriel** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:28 pm

Sorry to get kinda back on topic, but I like how Mary had to get a spiffy computer, and how valuable an Alethiometer is, when Mary could later just use some sticks and an old chinese book

I am also quite confused as, if I remember correctly, the words on Mary's screen said that they were Angels. But the Angels we later see simply talk like everybody else. Confuscating.

Sparrow · Postby **Sparrow** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:36 pm

Sorry to get kinda back on topic, but I like how Mary had to get a spiffy computer, and how valuable an Alethiometer is, when Mary could later just use some sticks and an old chinese book

Haha yeah, I thought of that too.

I am also quite confused as, if I remember correctly, the words on Mary's screen said that they were Angels. But the Angels we later see simply talk like everybody else. Confuscating.

They may be a higher level of angels, like higher than Xaphania or something. Or, they may have just said they were angels to help Mary understand them better.

Bantanix · Postby **Bantanix** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:50 pm

on the official sites for the books(i think) it said that specters were corrupted angels, could that mean maybe that whenever the knife cuts through a world it corrupts some Dust, turning it into a specter? probly not but it does bring a whole new level of connections and relations into the story.

AySz88 · Postby **AySz88** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:53 pm

You could say that Specters corrupt Dust by consuming it....

Postby **jessia** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:55 pm

which just helps them grow on it?

Postby **jessia** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:55 pm

which just helps them grow on it?

Bantanix · Postby **Bantanix** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:57 pm

yeah, if they ARE dust and they EAT dust then they become bigger.

Dust,.. does a body good

Postby **jessia** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:59 pm

but spectres are like the anti-Dust... kinda.

Bantanix · Postby **Bantanix** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:20 pm

exactly theyre the anti-Dust

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