owatts93darkmaterials fan wrote:Erm.. why at the beggining of the audio discs does it say that Lyra is ten? is that suggesting that their journey through the books takes three years?
Can someone quickly answer this question please.
owatts93darkmaterials fan wrote:Erm.. why at the beggining of the audio discs does it say that Lyra is ten? is that suggesting that their journey through the books takes three years?
I don't think that it actually said that Mary was twelve at the time.
JudyHNM wrote:I don't think that it actually said that Mary was twelve at the time.
Yes, it says Mary is twelve in Chapter 33 - "Marzipan"
Undestined wrote:When I first read the books I was 14, and since Will and Lyra's age was vague enough that I could really put it anywhere, I pictured Will as 14 and Lyra as 13. But there's really not enough information to pinpoint it exactly. However, one of the biggest sticking points on thie thread has been how long all the action of the books has taken, specifically the *really long walk* through the land of the dead. Somebody said that it could only have been a few days because there was no way to replenish supplies but then...if you did run out of food and water in the Land of the Dead, would you die? Can you die in the afterlife? I think that the Land of the Dead is sufficiently exempt from the laws of time and space that we can really put the time spent there anywhere. I think.
LadySylvia wrote:And yet they had sex in TAS, which is supposed to put everything in balance?
Undestined wrote:When I first read the books I was 14, and since Will and Lyra's age was vague enough that I could really put it anywhere, I pictured Will as 14 and Lyra as 13. But there's really not enough information to pinpoint it exactly.
Northern Lights, pg 240 wrote:"Lizzie."
"Just Lizzie?"
"Lizzie Brooks."
"And how old are you?"
"Eleven."
Lyra had been told that she was small for her age, whatever that meant. It had never affected her sense of her own importance, but she realised she could use the fact now to make Lizzie shy and nervous and insignificant, and shrank a little as she went into the room.
TAS, pg 426 wrote:He kissed her. She felt as soft and light in his arms as she'd done when Lyra was conceived thirteen years before.
Jez wrote:TAS, pg 426 wrote:He kissed her. She felt as soft and light in his arms as she'd done when Lyra was conceived thirteen years before.
Depending on how flexible you want to be with 'thirteen years before' and how generous you want to be with the amount of time that has passed until Will and Lyra spend that fateful day together in the mulefa's world, then Lyra is most likely twelve at that point or possibly she might have turned thirteen.
My best guess is that when Will and Lyra had sex or didn't depending on your point of view, Lyra was twelve and Will was thirteen. If anyone has any reasoning or evidence to suggest otherwise, feel free to disagree.
Peter wrote:Jez wrote:TAS, pg 426 wrote:He kissed her. She felt as soft and light in his arms as she'd done when Lyra was conceived thirteen years before.
Depending on how flexible you want to be with 'thirteen years before' and how generous you want to be with the amount of time that has passed until Will and Lyra spend that fateful day together in the mulefa's world, then Lyra is most likely twelve at that point or possibly she might have turned thirteen.
My best guess is that when Will and Lyra had sex or didn't depending on your point of view, Lyra was twelve and Will was thirteen. If anyone has any reasoning or evidence to suggest otherwise, feel free to disagree.
A child might claim to be a different age than she really is, but there's no reason for Lord Asriel (or PP) to do so at this point. Here, "thirteen" must mean "between thirteen and fourteen", not "nearly thirteen" or "thirteen in a few months", and Lyra must be at least 13 3/4 when her parents die, allowing for gestation time. For Lyra to be "turned thirteen", you'd have to change the text of TAS to read "She felt as soft and light in his arms as she'd done when Lyra was conceived twelve years before".
Riali wrote:Peter wrote:Jez wrote:TAS, pg 426 wrote:He kissed her. She felt as soft and light in his arms as she'd done when Lyra was conceived thirteen years before.
Depending on how flexible you want to be with 'thirteen years before' and how generous you want to be with the amount of time that has passed until Will and Lyra spend that fateful day together in the mulefa's world, then Lyra is most likely twelve at that point or possibly she might have turned thirteen.
My best guess is that when Will and Lyra had sex or didn't depending on your point of view, Lyra was twelve and Will was thirteen. If anyone has any reasoning or evidence to suggest otherwise, feel free to disagree.
A child might claim to be a different age than she really is, but there's no reason for Lord Asriel (or PP) to do so at this point. Here, "thirteen" must mean "between thirteen and fourteen", not "nearly thirteen" or "thirteen in a few months", and Lyra must be at least 13 3/4 when her parents die, allowing for gestation time. For Lyra to be "turned thirteen", you'd have to change the text of TAS to read "She felt as soft and light in his arms as she'd done when Lyra was conceived twelve years before".
I think you've added gestation to Lyra's age rather than subtracting it...
If she was conceived between 13 and 14 years ago, then she was born between 12 years 3 months and 13 years 3 months ago.
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