Temptation

hermioneP · Postby **hermioneP** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 7:52 pm

Okay, this may come out wrong, but honestly, I don't mean it in a bad way.

My friend and I have this discussion going about what really happened in TAS. When Lyra and Will are looking for their daemons, and they start kissing, is that all they do? Or is it a bit more?

I like to give them the benefit of the doubt, but my friend says that they did more than kiss.

Also, is this the Adam and Eve thing that was alluded to throughout the book? I never understood when the temptation thing happened. I think that the whole kissing episode was the temptation, but I'm not sure.

hermioneP · Postby **hermioneP** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 7:56 pm

Oh, well I didn't realize that there was curently another discussion about the kissing thing, so just excuse that- but please respond to the Adam and Eve part.

Tristan · Postby **Tristan** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 8:00 pm

Adam and Eve.. well, this has been discussed at length too- the actual temptation has to involve Mary, since she was dubbed "the serpent" by Dust. It could be the scene where Lyra and Will kiss etc. (also backed up by the whole fruit thing), since that involved mary the most...

Postby **jessia** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 8:15 pm

they fell in love and were concious of their feelings. in the garden of eden, they ate the apple and were concious of their sins.

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 11:57 pm

my opinion: mary showed them how to express themselves in the form of "love".. (pp's quote on love) and they realized that they weren't just friends, aka, love is temptation, is the fall...

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 9:57 pm

I think that the marzipan thing and the fruit thing was the temptation

secret_pudding · Postby **secret_pudding** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:10 pm

Pullman is funny. Freud would have a field-day with the obvious symbolism, so perfectly placed and suggestive: from rubbing each other's daemon's to eating marzipan, to the whole "fall in the garden" scenario.

And then he is all "none of your business what they do." :lol:

I love him!

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:18 pm

same here

the way he leaves you hanging...

BEAUTIFUL!

Pyr · Postby **Pyr** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 1:31 am

what is...........................................................................................oh

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 1:36 am

see...

another person who enjoys some good old fashioned post count raising fun...

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:06 am

its not just fun for you... i think we need to have an intervention...

let the mouse go, RG... let it go....

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:09 am

over my dead body!

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:38 am

That can be arranged... :twisted:

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:40 am

OVER MY DEAD BODY!

Pyr · Postby **Pyr** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:55 am

as KO said, that can be arranged

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:56 am

he's milking it as best he can...

Pyr · Postby **Pyr** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:00 am

who is?

King Ogunwe · Postby **King Ogunwe** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:00 am

Random Guy... who else?

Pyr · Postby **Pyr** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:46 am

maybe...me :roll:

random guy · Postby **random guy** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:29 pm

you two are more than I am...

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