daemons' Settling

tatee231 · Postby **tatee231** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:58 pm

Spoiler:

Jamie · Postby **Jamie** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:00 am

no it doesn't. people's daemons settle around puberty regardless of love.

tatee231 · Postby **tatee231** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:05 am

was it just a coincedence that it happened at the same time

krebbe · Postby **krebbe** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:36 am

No, the onset of puberty caused both.

Will · Postby **Will** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:10 pm

I'm not sure; the all-knowing narrator definitely said that the touch of a lover's hand meant that the daemons would never want to change again.

krebbe · Postby **krebbe** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:27 pm

But that would mean kids who didn't fall in love wouldn't have their daemons settle.

Will · Postby **Will** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:43 pm

I assume ones that do the Will and Lyra thing have theirs settle like that, those that don't just have the usual puberty stick.

Postby **jessia** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:06 pm

but the onset of puberty allowed them to be aware being in love with each other?

pjmaster · Postby **pjmaster** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:42 pm

they fell in love when mary told the marzipan story

maneki neko · Postby **maneki neko** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:22 pm

pjmaster wrote:they fell in love when mary told the marzipan story

No, that was when they realized they loved each other.
On that respect, can anyone reference the earliest part where Will showed romantic feelings for Lyra? Other way 'round is equally kosher too.

Postby **Peter** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:27 pm

"Because he's Will"

Ian · Postby **Ian** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:39 pm

Being in love was just incentive for the daemons to settle.

GVH · Postby **GVH** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:35 pm

I actually think that falling in love was the thing that meant that Lyra and Will had grown up, and *that* made their DÃƒÂ¦mons settle.

Now for them it was love that made 'em grow up, for other people it could have been something completely different. Point is, the growing up (caused by the falling in love in this case, sure) was what made the dÃƒÂ¦mons settle.

Leif · Postby **Leif** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:14 am

Puberty doesn't really happen in an instant, so I bet they already both went through puberty a little while back, so their daemons were already beginning to settle, but when they fellin love, it became final.

Ian · Postby **Ian** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:11 am

Final.

That's quite a good last explanation btw...

Danny Barefoot · Postby **Danny Barefoot** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:44 pm

Chicken, egg, egg, chicken...they grew up, which caused them to fall in love, which accelerated the growing up process, which caused their daemons to settle at thirteen If my 14yr old brother's got a settled daemon, I'd be suprised.

It does occur that neither growing up or falling in love when sudden events. Losing their parents and being seperated from their daemons helped their spirits to mature through suffering-their daemons settling perfected their ability to love, and completed the journey.

Ian · Postby **Ian** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:10 pm

Best explanation so far from Danny. I think that a way to answer the original question would simply be: "Circumstances"

Danny Barefoot · Postby **Danny Barefoot** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:31 am

Me is feeling complimented.

'Circumstances' is a fair starting point.

pjmaster · Postby **pjmaster** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:36 pm

so really if you dont fall in love, you could have a daemon that hadnt settled for about, maybe 16 years more or less depending on when you went through puberty.

Danny Barefoot · Postby **Danny Barefoot** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:45 pm

If you mean your daemon might not settle till sixteen, I fully agree with you.

Incidently, it isn't nice to think that what I am now is what i'll be all my life.

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