Did Mary Malone actually play the serpent?

[Cookiemonster]

that language!!

That would be Italian.....!

[jessia]

i love how eve's eva. it sounds so much less bland.

[Melancholy Man]

Ciao! I'm new and when I saw this topic I couldn't help but register...sorry for my bad spelling&co...English is not my first language, I'm Italian...

Buona sera signorina! Piacere di conscerla. Ma perché, se tu sei italiana, ti chiami Violet Evans? Il tuo nome è inglese, si?

Rosie, what's Italian for "change your font colour"?

[Enitharmon]

Rosie, what's Italian for "change your font colour"?

Dovrei cambiare il colore della tua fontana.

[jalize]

If dr. Malone played the role of the serpent as "tempting lyra to love", she seemed to have fallen.
Remember when Lord asriel's alethiometrist told him, or it was the church one (I don't remember), that if Lyra was to be tempeted she was going to fall.
on the other hand, after ms Coulter tortured the witch, she seemed to have understood sth like " anew begining without fall" without the original sin...
It doesn't make complete sense, or does it?

[ArouraThroughTheSpyglass]

well, this is how i think Dr. Malone played the serpent.

In the traditianls story of the bible, the serpent tempted eve to take the fruit and eat it from the tree in the garden. Mary packed lunches for them for the day, which included fruit, therefore the fruit they ate during theire realiztion that they loved eachother than everything snapped was in fact given to them by mary. Also to add to it, they were in a grove of trees as adam and eve were in a garden next to a tree. The dust particles and embodied conciousness at that point started surrounding will and lyra, just like when adam and eve ate the fruit, they had knowlege. i think this is enough to explain how mary played the serpent, though in a more sutle way than in the biblical creation story.

[Crazy Bear Mc.Gubbins]

Mary packed lunches for them for the day, which included fruit,

I don't know whether to be relieved or disappointed that your post had more of a point to it than that single line there

[Lord Boreal]

Whether Dr. Malone played the serpent or not, I just don't understand how two ordinary children falling in love would suddenly fix all of the dust-related problems in every single universe!

[Dante]

It's just Lyra being in an Eve position; there's no real logical reason.

[modernmike0005]

but at the end of TGC, lord asrial said that the story of adam and eve was imaginary but could be used to compare with other facts, "like the square rout of negitive one."

maybe the bible told the story of adam and eve to convince people that sin existed and to use it to bend the will of the believers. i mean, thats what the story is all about, right? objecting to the oppressive accusations of sin.

why would pp relate back to the very thing that the story was against

do understand that its just an opinion, and not a factual judgement , for all you aggressive critasists

[Peter]

No, she didn't play the serpent. She played the tuba.

[vegsinPA]

[quote="muddmania"]When reading TAS i thought that Mary Malone was going to tempt Lyra in some way (the computer told her she was to play the serpent), but i never actualy figured out when she did. Was it when she told Lyra of her first love?[/quote]

I think it was supposed to either be she makes lyra and will ant to stay in that world, or, she was the one that made lyra relize she was in love woth will. I think it's most like the latter.